Posts tagged: men
Just another fascinating gender article.
What are your thoughts - are men and women different or the same?
Germany never ceases to amaze. When gender differences push too strongly one way or the other, pain ensues.
I have not been able to get this commercial out of my head for months. During the course of the semester I just completed, I made it my business to dig deeper into the idea of gender and the roles of gender within the church. For a while, it has been a topic I needed to fully figure out where I stood and the classes I took this semester gave me the perfect opportunity to write both my research papers on different aspect of it.
As I was studying the biblical role of women inside the chruch and the Bible, this song (which I hadn’t seen in years) kept running through my head. If I could have figured out how to cite it in an academic work, I would have used it. But citing stinks and I didn’t have enough time to do that. And in all honesty, I thought it was a Nike commercial not Gatorade.
Watch this commercial. It was made after 1996 and the USA Olympic Women’s Soccer Team won the Gold Medal. Hamm, was the the star of that team. Michael Jordan is MJ, of course. He’s one of the greatest athletes ever, during the height of his second three peat.
The year was 1997.
Post-modernism had begun. The Feminist movement was in the stages of overtaking culture. And for some reason, 15 years later, this commercial sticks with me today as a 25 year old man with a beard.
Somehow, if it sticks with me, I wonder if it is the actual representation of what my generation of women and those coming behind me were raised on and what their norm is - they can do anything better then me for they are a woman, they are my sister? This is the question which has been pounding my intellect and soul for months now.
Inside the church walls, I am a man who would love to be an egalitarian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism) but just can’t come over from being complementary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementarianism). Yet even in this, I wonder if maybe there is a middle ground. Maybe, we need to re-understand, Biblically, what complementary actually means? Maybe, just maybe, the conversation complementarians are having needs to change?
What if, we started with the notion “What can’t a woman do?” rather then “What can a woman do?” Yes, you are only changing one word, but what it does is begin to open up a completely new dialogue. One must understand women can, must and shall have a large role to play in the church and we need to understand if there are things they cannot do (Biblically, not because they are not capable, qualified or better then male counterparts) and begin to err on the side of empowerment, instead of suppression.
Friends, feminism has won. This is neither good nor bad - it is culture. However, it means the old ways of saying things and doing things may no longer reach our culture. For instance, how do we expect to reach a generation of women who have grown up hearing “I can do anything better then you”, then hear the Gospel of Christ and are told there are now things they cannot do? Does this sound like the Gospel or Jesus?
I wonder, what is more important - people or doctrine?
At times my masculinity can be a detriment. There are times where my masculinity can do more harm then good. It is not because being a man is bad or masculinity is bad, but because my masculinity needs to fully get shaped & conformed into Biblical masculinity - the masculinity Jesus had.
I knew this going into seminary. I knew it. I knew it so deeply it could be said I felt it as a deep ache of my bones. I knew seminary was going to be unlike the diversity of CSUF. I also knew, that while CSUF was about 70% female - Talbot was going to 90% male. This my friends is a big change of scenery.
For my first 2 years of seminary I’ve been able to hide from this ratio. I was in classes everyone had to take. Tonight however, my class had around 26 people in it. One of them was what can be be scientifically classified as a female, a woman - a lady. The rest were white and Korean males.
Tonight, of all nights, this ration, this breakdown broke my heart.
Truly, I still do not know where I fully stand on the notion and theology of women in ministry. What I know, as of right now, is how I would rather not error on the side of oppression. I would rather cultivate and environment of freedom - to let both women and men thrive - not one that boxes them out and makes it a male only gang. Honestly, this is about as thought out and processed as my theology of gender roles is.
Therefore, a class like this one stings. It cracks my heart. I believe the church, the body of Christ, is most effective when all its parts are working together. Only having one female in this class shows me how there is a better then likely chance we will not get the full expression of the church in this class. My heart breaks.
To all those women out there who have or are going to seminary - especially my friends I’ve been priviliged to walk with and know - you impress me. It cannot be easy. It must feel weird. It could feel intimidating. Please keep it at.
We men need you.
Seminary needs you.
The Kingdom needs you.
This picture breaks my heart for both men and women.
It says so much about our culture that is screams it.
Boys, it is time to become men.
Before I write anything else, does anybody else see the has to be unintentional innuendo on the cover page? Hilarious.
Best part about this booklet are “Men Initiate” and “Men Risk Rejection”. Love this. Love it.
It’s a little long. I don’t agree with all it all, but it’s solid. Give it a read.
“He had a form of Godliness - but not much”
What a culture snapshot this poem is. Sadly, desperately sadly, this is so true.
I want a woman who understands this. I need a woman who understands this.
Women, you are valuable. Don’t sell yourself short.
Men, rise up and be men. Love well. Worry about loving Jesus well first, and then you can worry about women. They need you to love Jesus well. So, please do.
God, “Let your word be tatted over my heart.”
Sacred Marriage, Gary Thomas, 69
I love reading up on masculinity…
What does culture say?
Does it matter?
I love culture…
Give this a read. Give me you thoughts.
I have a sociological question - several actually.
1) Should a man ever ask a woman on a date in any other way then face to face if he has the ability to do it in a non-long distance situation, even if it means waiting?
2) Should he ever use e-mail, chat, facebook, text, or a phone call to ask her out?
3) When would it be appropriate to not ask her out face to face?
4) Even if everyone else says it’s okay is using the phone still the easy way out and should you always chose the better option of in person?
5) What would mean more to a woman, in person face to face or an other means?
6) Should a woman ever ask a man out - ever?
Please answer with details and truthfully. I’m intrigued to see what I can learn…